Our co-founders Jamie Dobson and Pini Reznik appeared on the Agile Uprising Podcast this week to talk about their book, Cloud Native Transformation: Practical Patterns for Innovation.
Jamie, Pini, and podcast host Jay Hrcsko talked about misconceptions about moving to the cloud, with a lot of attention to what Hrcsko called “the elephant in the room”: how important cultural change is to making a Cloud Native Transformation work.
“As a consultant, you learn that all the problems are human problems,” Pini said. Those “human problems” create cultural resistance to change, even when the need for change is obvious.
“It’s difficult to find a problem that people are not aware of,” he added. “You can go to someone and say, ‘You need to move to the cloud.’ And they say, ‘I know it. I’ve known it for five years now’.”